Curse

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 15, 2008, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by cerb

Prophecies was the best

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lie

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lie [lahy] noun, verb, lied, ly·ing.

–noun
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2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement.
4. the charge or accusation of lying: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
–verb (used without object)
5. to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive.
6. to express what is false; convey a false impression.
–verb (used with object)
7. to bring about or affect by lying (often used reflexively): to lie oneself out of a difficulty; accustomed to lying his way out of difficulties.
—Idioms
8. give the lie to,
a. to accuse of lying; contradict.
b. to prove or imply the falsity of; belie: His poor work gives the lie to his claims of experience.
9. lie in one's throat or teeth, to lie grossly or maliciously: If she told you exactly the opposite of what she told me, she must be lying in her teeth. Also, lie through one's teeth.

Yours is number 3.

politicsxxox · Mar 15, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09

i saw a ranger with apply poison and lava arrows as his build during raisu palace lol , i just left and hero'd the whole thing

Crom The Pale · Mar 15, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20

If somebody uses a "cookie cutter" build they get flamed and called a noob...

If somebody uses a totaly unique, but less effective build, then they get called a noob and flamed...

If somebody creates a cool new build that really works, it gets posted on Wiki or Guru and becomes a "cookie cutter" build...

I think people need to stop asking others to ping thier build when they join a random pug. If you are putting together a party for a mission, and you want specific builds, then ask for them and make certian the entire party is on the same game plan. But if you just join a random party to get the mission done faster then you really have to accept whatever build they choose to run.

Shadow Kurd · Mar 15, 2008, 09:37 AM // 09:37

I blame Ursan for noob builds

Master Knightfall · Mar 15, 2008, 09:42 AM // 09:42

There are no noob builds there are only idiotic arrogant cookie cutter building noobs who think they are elite cause they "copied" a build from Wiki that worked "somewhere" but, not everywhere. <grin>

netniwk · Mar 15, 2008, 09:42 AM // 09:42

I blame Npc's for noob builds

garethporlest18 · Mar 15, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

I blame lack of knowledge for noob builds.

We all gotta learn.

But I blame everyone else for the state of the game cause you guys have horrible attitudes.

A positive statement on how those of you with horrible attitudes reflect badly on the game, Master Knightfall. So it's a positive attitude.

Master Knightfall · Mar 15, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52

And telling everyone they have horrible attitudes is WHAT KING of attitude pray tell?

Lord Sojar · Mar 15, 2008, 10:36 AM // 10:36

Prophecies does a terrible job of setting you on course in presearing, that I will agree with.

LOL... Frenzy healsig GO GO GO!!!!

Oh wait! Better yet.

I love how elementalists don't get ANY viable skills other then fire skills until the desert (2/3 through the game....) GG.

~ Dan ~ · Mar 15, 2008, 12:15 PM // 12:15

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

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Yours is number 3.

Quoted For Truth.

Turtle222 · Mar 15, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

i blame nothing. stop the whining people :S

Hyper Cutter · Mar 16, 2008, 04:42 AM // 04:42

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Originally Posted by Rexion

Um... sure?
"Noob builds" happen because the first possible elite you can get comes in the (correct me if I'm wrong) Crystal Desert.
So that is 2/3 of the game you have almost not "super-duper" build.

Not to mention that the skills you get are... random, to say the least (Some basic skills, ones you get on Shing Jea or Istan, take a confusingly long time to get from Prophecies).

Random Scrubinator · Mar 16, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

I do admit that I do blame the beginning of Prophecies for noob builds. What're the first skills they give you as a Warrior? That's right, you guessed it: Frenzy and Healing Signet. /sigh. At least the first elite they're able to cap isn't Healing Hands.

Actually, healing hands was one of the first elites you could cap in the first few months of the game. The Mergoyle boss in D'Alessio Seaboard had it.
Also, remember the premade builds they had for pvp? Nearly every W/Mo was the paladin template, which had both healing hands and mending. If I recall, the template advised you to cast mending on yourself before the battle started. With no balthazar faction, most people never bothered to even tweak the builds

Nevin · Mar 16, 2008, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Yep the other day I was vanquishing Prophs on my warrior and I was shocked to see the same crowds of people with the same builds from 2 years ago, its like people are living retro in the past or only have prophs.

ogre_jd · Mar 16, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52

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Originally Posted by Nevin

Yep the other day I was vanquishing Prophs on my warrior and I was shocked to see the same crowds of people with the same builds from 2 years ago, its like people are living retro in the past or only have prophs.

Some people *do* still have only Prophecies. And if the builds still work for them, that's great no matter how much the people here might disapprove.

Lionhe4rt · Mar 16, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34

I actually enjoyed walking around with my own builds more then with the cookie cutter builds, even though my own builds sucked a lot. (power shot + ignite arrows + conjure flame). The game was a lot more challenging and epic (especially because I didnt knew I was making it a lot harder for myself

).

The Way Out · Mar 17, 2008, 01:26 PM // 13:26

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Originally Posted by Age

I would say that we as in Tyrians have better low,mid to high level henchmen castors than than most other camps and Thom and Devona are still good.It is the ones that are around those that aren't great.I would go out at their lvl and put yourself in their shoes(skills no runes) and see how far you get.

There is one I detest more than any and that is Stefan.

I try to compare the hench in all the campaigns (and even EotN). I really think they did a great job on the EotN hench. The eles are adequate and the monk do a good job. Prophecies hench are atrocious. I am sorry. I get so frustrated when I am doing a vanquishing and have to bring some of them along. It drive me bonkers.

Cebe · Mar 17, 2008, 01:33 PM // 13:33

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Originally Posted by Julia-Louis Dreyfus

yeah i dont think you can blame a game

I blame people who never read skill descriptions for "noob builds".

Ouchie · Mar 17, 2008, 01:36 PM // 13:36

I think the problem is they don't give you enough skills in Pre. They give you some for each possible attribute, but not enough to decide for yourself which attributes you plan on using through the game. Having skills split among the attributes also means spliting your points thin.

MagmaRed · Mar 17, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

I blame the original box for Guild Wars (Prophecies).

"Strike with a Hamstring attack to cripple your fleeing opponent, then rain fire down upon him as he slowly limps away."

People who actually looked at the whole skill bar they showed also saw Chain Lightning, Phoenix, and Ice Spikes being used. The other 3 skills were IWAY, Galrath Slash, and Defensive Stance.

1) Swordsmanship
2) Fire Magic
3) Air Magic
4) Water Magic
5) Strength
6) Tactics

Good builds started with the box art!